SAS Whitlock

00:00
Speaker 1
There's a few things going on in the world of sports that need to be addressed, but on this particular day, they don't take precedent. Instead, one would be Aaron Rogers and his situation with the Pat McAfee show. That's necessary to address because, after all, I'm an employee for ESPN. The other would be a fat bastard that has gotten away for far too long walking his bullshit. You wanted some? Fine. I'm happy to give it to you piece of shit. The Stephen A. Smith show up next right now. What's up, everybody? Welcome to the latest edition of the Stephen A. Smith show coming at you at the very least three times a week over the digital airwaves of YouTube. I am coming at you from Los Angeles studios.

00:57
Speaker 1
I'm on the road, so obviously I won't be taking any phone calls today, but to be quite honest with you, I won't be taking any tweets either. I'm not in the mood. I just want to speak and I want to get out of here because I got better things to do with my time. But there's just certain things that are necessary to get into. Before I do that, let me once again thank you all for showing me a bunch of love that you're giving me. Probably by the end of this show, I'll be up to 460,000 subscribers over the first nine months of this YouTube channel. I can't thank you all enough for the love and support that you've been giving me. Keep it coming. And I'm going to keep on coming.

01:32
Speaker 1
A little bit later on in the show, I almost never say his name, and that is the name of Jason Whitlock. He is a guy that has a show on Blaze TV. He is the person that I directly allude to as that fat bastard. He's a no good individual, probably the worst individual I've ever had the displeasure of ever being associated with in any capacity. And I will address him in just a few minutes. All I will say is that the things that I'm going to say, please don't hold anybody responsible for it other than me. Nobody. I even took the liberty of calling my pastor to apologize in advance for what I'm going to say about that no good bastard. So I will address that in just a few minutes. And I'm not engaging in hyperbole. I'm not exaggerating.

02:26
Speaker 1
The pastor's name is pastor A. R. Bernard at Christian Cultural center. You don't believe me, call him and ask him. I don't lie like some other people. I know. Do. But again, I'll get into that a little bit later on in the show. Before I do that, it's necessary for me because I'm the face of ESPN. And obviously, there's a lot of things that went on this week in regards to Pat McAfee and some of the news that he made with his show. And obviously, Aaron Rogers was one of those things. The other stuff that involved Pat McAfee and him calling out an executive and all of that other stuff. All I'm going to tell y'all is this. You don't have to mind your damn business, but I will mind mine. I am an employee of ESPN. For my day job.

03:14
Speaker 1
I don't discuss internal matters. That is none of my business. That is above my pay grade. Pat McAfee has his show. He's responsible for everything that goes on with his show. The executives that we answer to at ESPN, they're my bosses. And I'm not going to be stupid enough, irresponsible enough, immature enough to think about that. I can talk about family business. I don't do that. That's not going to happen. So don't expect me to speak on ever. Ever. That's not how I roll. Having said all of that, Aaron Rodgers is a different matter because that's not necessarily an internal matter. That's a sports story. And Aaron Rodgers went on Pat McAfee's show a little more than a week ago and made news talking about one of our other colleagues under the Walt Disney banner, which would happen to be Jimmy Kimmel.

04:09
Speaker 1
Aaron Rogers obviously had a few things to say about Jimmy Kimmel because he doesn't particularly like him. If you watch some of the videos where Jimmy Kimmel was making fun of Aaron Rodgers during COVID When he was making fun of Aaron Rodgers because of some of his conspiracy theories, these are the kind of things that rubbed Aaron Rodgers the wrong way. So when Aaron Rodgers had an opportunity to take a stab or a jab at Jimmy Kimmel, what was it that he said? And I'm looking for it here because I want to make sure that I find the direct quote that Aaron Rogers said about Jimmy Kimmel. But he basically talked about popping bottles, to be quite honest with you. He said, know everybody was looking forward to the list coming out, et cetera. Just reading from my notes here.

05:05
Speaker 1
He doubled down once he had said what he said about Jimmy Kimmel. He said yesterday on the Pat McAfee show, I don't have any apologies, not for that guy from ABC. That's what Aaron Rodgers says. And so subsequently the news came down that Aaron Rodgers would not be on a Pat McAfee show anymore during this football season. Whether that's a permanent decision or whatever, I don't know, don't care. I support Pat McAfee from the standpoint that I think he's an incredible talent. I like the guy personally. He's straight up. He lets you know where he stands. He's unapologetic about it. He don't give a damn who you are. Black, white, male, female, he don't give a damn. He's going to let you know where he stands. And I respect that as it pertains to specificity of everything that's transpired.

05:53
Speaker 1
That's a different subject for another day. But when Rogers on Tuesday had shot back at Jimmy Kimmel for making fun of him all of those months, in Rogers opinion, he said, I think it's impressive that a man who went to Arizona state and has ten joke writers can read off a prompter. My education at JUCO and my three semesters at Cal, which I'm very proud of, has worked out for me and I'm glad to see it's worked out for him, he said. But I wish him as in Jimmy Kimmel, the best. But I don't give a shit what he says about me as long as he understands what I actually said, and I'm not accusing him of being on the list. That was Aaron Rodgers retort to what Jimmy Kimmel had really lost it over.

06:40
Speaker 1
And what Jimmy Kimmel had really lost it over was Aaron Rodgers just saying, know folks are not looking forward to that list coming out. And one of those people is Jimmy Kimmel. Epstein, I'm sorry, I got my producers here with me. Jeffrey Epstein being on the Jeffrey Epstein list. Okay, so that's really what it is. If you want to hear what Jimmy Kimmel had to say. Just as a reminder, Aaron Rodgers has a very high opinion of himself. He genuinely thinks that because God gave him the ability to throw a football, he's smarter than everybody else. We learned during COVID Somehow he knows more about science than scientists. A guy went to community college, then got into Cal on a football scholarship and didn't graduate. Someone who never spent the minutes studying the human body is an expert in the field of immunology.

07:29
Speaker 1
Aaron got two a's on his report card and they were both in the word Aaron. That part was funny. I have to admit that. All I want to say is this. Take Aaron Rodgers at his word. I thought that he was very. Despite long, lengthy ramblings on the Pat McAfee show on Tuesday, I did believe, and I did appreciate the fact that he came out and said, look, and I'm not calling him a pedophile. I'm not alluding to it. I was just taking a shot at a guy that's taking a shot at me. And anybody that would want to sit up there and label him such a derogatory or had such a derogatory label towards him, just don't do it in my name. That's nonsense. I don't want any part of that. So I do appreciate him saying that.

08:15
Speaker 1
But here's the reality of the situation. When Aaron Rodgers said what he said, it did allude to it. There's no escaping that. When he said what he said, it did allude to that. You do have some wackos out there that would automatically assume that Jimmy Kimmel was going to be on the list. So because of that negative attention from the Epstein list that you brought towards Jimmy Kimmel, the least you could do would say, I'm sorry about that. That's not what I intended to do. I was wrong for doing that. You could have said it like this. I don't like him. I don't like him a little bit and I don't give a shit what he has to say about me ever. But I went a bit too far there and I was wrong and left it at that.

08:53
Speaker 1
That's not what Aaron Rodgers elected to do. And as a result of it is what it is. He's no longer going to be on the Pat McAfee show for the remainder of this football season. Who knows whether or not he'll ever be back? And as a result, we go from there as far as it pertains to people looking to give a shot to Pat McAfee. Listen, Pat McAfee is his own man. Just like an abundance of people are their own man or their own woman working at ESPN. If I disagree with something you've done, so what? That doesn't mean I don't support you. And I got to tell you this, and I'm going to say it to everybody one last time so everybody understands this. I don't know about everybody else, but I'm very happy to have Pat McAfee at ESPN.

09:38
Speaker 1
Pat McAfee established himself with his own YouTube channel. He bet on himself. Years ago, he built a following amassing in excess of 2 million followers on YouTube. Okay, give the brother credit where credit is due. And there are people that don't want him to succeed. But there's a lot of people who do. And my only words to Pat McAfee is that as long as his show is on ESPN, anytime he wants me to come on, I'm happy to come on. He's been great to me and I think he's going to succeed. And the one thing that I do feel compelled to address is these headlines about how his numbers and his ratings don't necessarily measure up to that of first take. Well, no one has in the mornings. We've been number one for twelve years.

10:31
Speaker 1
But I guarantee you that Pat McAfee show is doing better than the sports center show. He succeeded. I guarantee you that Pat McAfee's numbers are climbing. I guarantee you that Pat McAfee show will continue to get better and better. It's just that I intend for first take to get better and better as well. He's not in the same time slide as me. I'm not competing with him. I want Pat McAfee to be successful. And guess what? The more successful he is, the better it is for somebody like me, along with a plethora of other people's. Because when the model is the model, when you don't purchase the talent, you don't employ the talent, you purchase the show. That's a business model. So for people to root against, that makes no sense to me.

11:18
Speaker 1
If Pat McAfee succeeds, you have any idea how many floodgates will be open for other opportunities for other folks if Pat McAfee succeeds? What the hell are you rooting against him for? What are you rooting against him for? Now? Is he in a quiet taste? Sure. Does he do things that most of us wouldn't do? Sure. But in the end, whether I agree or disagree with anything and how I feel is none of y'all damn business because that's an in house matter. He's got my support. He's got my support from the standpoint. I want his show to succeed on ESPN. It makes all of us better. And if you understand anything about business, the abundance of layoffs that took place before his arrival, those were employees or independent contractors.

12:17
Speaker 1
If you're losing money and you're trying to offset losses, you let folks go, you write it off and you move on to a different era. And when the person that you bring in succeeds the old, and it's their business as opposed to them as an employee, then the overhead and everything that comes with it is your responsibility, not the company's, which means their liabilities are limited. That's why they made the deal they made. Whether it works out for ESPN or not remains to be seen. But make no mistake about it, Pat McAfee is my teammate at ESPN. Just like Shannon Sharp and club Shay. He's my teammate. Just like Ryan Clark in a pivot. My teammate. I'm rooting for everybody. You're a teammate of mine. I want you to win. I want you to win.

13:10
Speaker 1
I'm sorry things didn't work out with Aaron Rodgers, or at least that appears to be the case. I'm a huge fan of Aaron Rodgers. I don't agree with what he alluded to, whether intentional or unintentional, Aaron Rodgers alluded to Jimmy Kimmel being on the Epstein list, period. I'm not saying it was intentional. I'm not saying it was vicious. I'm not saying, I'm not labeling it or judging it accordingly. I'm saying what impact it had because of the impact, you apologize. And I personally think he apologized. Doesn't stop me from leveraging. Aaron Rogers, a bad man. Got mad love for him. Wish I could watch him on the air talking about sports, not rambling about COVID and immunization and vaccines and all of that stuff. Even though some points he was making, I heard him loud and clear.

13:57
Speaker 1
Because there's a lot of people that believe, just like he believes that our government spent a lot of time lying to us. But that's a different subject for another day. But that brother is an all world quarterback, a future hall of famer. And when he wants to talk football, don't tell me we don't want to hear what he has to say. Still got love for him. Just wish he had apologized to Jimmy Kimmel. That's all I have to say about that particular subject because I got deeper subjects on my mind right now. Jason Whitlock. I said that name. It's not a name I've uttered. I normally don't do that, but it's necessary to do now. I've had enough of that fat bastard, that piece of shit.

14:51
Speaker 1
And I want to make sure that before I go to break, I want anyone out there who watches me, anyone out there who knows me, anyone out there, no matter what you think of me, I want you to remember I never talk about him. I never talk about my colleagues. I don't do that. This is a first, but it's necessary. And when I say don't talk about them, you don't talk about them literally. I don't get in on them. Like, I'm about to do now. I literally called my pastor and asked for his forgiveness and understanding in advance because he's not going to recognize the person he's about to hear. I did the same when I emailed the bosses at ESPN. This is my podcast. I own and operate this. I do what I want on this podcast.

15:49
Speaker 1
But it doesn't mean that I still don't harbor a responsibility to at least give my daytime employers a heads up as to what I'm about to do. My sisters, my nieces and nephews, my boys in the industry, everybody that I could reach out to in time has been warned. It's time for me to address this. I'm only going to do it once because this bastard is worth less than a damn cockroach. He wanted my attention. He's got it. The Stephen A. Smith show up next. Don't touch that dial. We'll deal with the fat bastard himself right now. Let's roll. Hang on. What's that? What? Are you putting the desk box on my desk? Just open it. You couldn't open it for me? What? Yeah. My new book on paperback. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it a lot.

17:23
Speaker 1
It works for me. It works for me. I'll see this new forward and all. Stephen A. In paperback, straight shooter memoir, second chances and first takes. I haven't gotten over that picture. It does look pretty smooth, I must say so myself. It's a bestseller. I'll hold on to this. Hope you go out and get it. Thank you all so much for the love and support. Wouldn't be here without you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome back to the Stephen A. Smith show right here over the digital airwaves of YouTube. By the way, that quote from Aaron Rodgers, I'm sorry, from Aaron Rogers, about Jimmy Kimmel, which initially sparked this whole brouhaha, was, quote, there's a lot of people, including Jimmy Kimmel, that are really hoping that list doesn't come out. That's what he had said. Couldn't find it for some reason. I apologize.

18:26
Speaker 1
Let me get back to the subject at hand, ladies and gentlemen. As a black man sitting in this seat, the level of vitriol that I have to absorb is something that I understand 99.99% of the time. You're a former player and you want to crucify me, that's fine. You're somebody that was involved in some kind of public incident that I had to speak on. Whether you're the wife or ex girlfriend of a former player or whatever, I get it. You're a present day athlete and you don't like my evaluation of what has transpired before our very eyes and what I'm witnessing, that's cool. But I swear to you on everything that I love, it's not personal. I'm a sports reporter and sports commentator. That is what I have been throughout my career.

19:42
Speaker 1
It is my responsibility to tell you what I see through my lens, how I feel about it, what my perspective is, et cetera. It's not like I'm sitting at home with absolutely nothing to do and no obligation touch on anything, but I feel the need to invoke and ingratiate my thoughts, opinions, et cetera, upon the world. I actually get paid to do this, and because of that, sometimes my opinions, my thoughts, my feelings, et cetera, are things that you would not like. But I have never lied to you, ever. If I wrote a story or I wrote an article, it's based on the things that I've been told, what I've seen, and what I feel. It is rare that I talk about myself on a personal level, because my personal life is not anybody's business, and I don't get into other people's personal life.

20:45
Speaker 1
It's not something that I do. Many figures in the world of sports find themselves in personal situations, not lawlessness, not unlawful things or anything like that. But there's plenty of situations. Michael, sherry, juvie. Where I've seen certain things and I turned a blind eye and deaf ear to it because it's none of my business, and I leave it alone. And one of the other things that I never do, I never attack my colleagues. I might disagree with something somebody says or does, and I might have an obligation to speak on it because it's in the news or whatever, but I don't speak against my colleagues. Once humanity comes into play, that's a given. Here's the other. That's not real work. Think about this for a second. I'm supposed to be covering sports, but I make a career out of talking about my colleagues.

21:49
Speaker 1
That ain't work. That's you finding some slick way to get a check because you can't get a job. That's Jason Whitlock. That's who the hell he is. Now, I have sat back for years, at least nine to ten years, saying absolutely nothing about this man. I never uttered the words fat bastard out of my mouth until a few months ago. So that means that the previous nine years, you never heard me speak on him at all. But now it's necessary because, you see, if you listen to the fat bastard, I didn't play high school ball, even though my coach's name was Harvey stole. It was Thomas A. Edison vocational and Technical high school. I played there my senior year.

22:48
Speaker 1
I was in a basketball tournament at Fashion Institute of Technology, where I dropped 27 points and got a scholarship because the coach came calling me after that and what have you, if you listen to him, I never had a scholarship to Winston Salem State, even though it's on the books. Just call the university. By the way, ladies and gentlemen, I'm an honorary doctorate member. I have an honorary doctorate from Winston Salem State University because of my contributions to Winston Salem State. I'm called Dr. Smith. Has something to also do with the contributions that I make because I believe about upliftment. I'm an ambassador for HBCU Week, and I've partnered with Ashley Christopher and Mayor Persicki in Delaware and others to generate over 10,000 scholarships in excess of over $65 million in scholarships for African Americans. But this man will tell you I'm lying.

23:55
Speaker 1
He even went so far as to say my autobiography, where I talk about my mother, my father, my sisters, the business, my hiring and firing and rehiring at ESPN. I didn't write it. I didn't write my own memoir, which, by the way, is a New York Times bestseller, something he wouldn't know anything about. Did you know that it's now on paperback? It just came out yesterday on paperback. Do you know that you could go to Amazon.com, straight shooterbook.com or a bookstore nearest you to get my book in paperback? Do you know that when people are normally selling 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 copies, I've sold over 400,000? Did you know? Did you know? Did you know? But he will tell you I didn't write it. He's seen my writing. Really? This article is an article written on deadspin.com.

25:17
Speaker 1
The title, how Jason Whitlock is poisoning ESPN's black grant land. Because remember, Bill Simmons, who's now at Spotify doing a great job, obviously had Grant land at ESPN. And upon his departure, Jason Whitlock was supposed to take up the mantle and create a black website for folks. This article was written by a Greg Howard published on April 27, 2015. The same Jason Whitlock that said he's seen my writing? The same Jason Whitlock that implied that I couldn't write? The same Jason Whitlock that said that I'm lying? What does this man do. Why would I call up this article? There's a plethora of reasons why I would do so, ladies and gentlemen. One of the reasons would because it's as in depth as it gets about how scarrelous, how trifling, how despicable this man is.

26:25
Speaker 1
But there's also another reason that I'd pick up this article. Let me read the graph to you that it says, keep in mind Stephen A. Can't write this staff, the one Whitlock was praising by way of warnings that if the writers and editors wouldn't align with his vision, he would get rid of them, was not the one Whitlock wanted. The undefeated, because that was the name of the title before it ultimately became and scape. The undefeated was originally meant to attract the best and brightest young black talent in the country. With Whitlock's aim set so high that he, at one point seriously tried to recruit the Atlantic's Tanahasi coats, the sharpest cultural commentator in the business today. As things worked out, though, those young writers comprehensively refused to work with him. So did big name espnners like Howard Bryant, Jamel Hill and Stephen A.

27:31
Speaker 1
Smith. I couldn't write while you were on blaze tv spewing that bullshit to people. Did you tell them that? Did you tell them how you stood outside of first take begging me to talk to you? Did you tell them that once the same article in Deadspin came out, weeks later, you wrote a lengthy apology to me in an email begging me to forgive you, pointing out how you were betrayed by this particular writer. So you know how I must feel that you betrayed me. Did you tell the folks that, you bitch. Did you tell them, you fat piece of shit. Did you tell them that got the names, we got Jamel Hill, we got Howard Bryant. You want me to bring up the other writers that wouldn't work for you. Why it took you nearly two years to get an article out?

28:42
Speaker 1
Because you ran that shit so bad you were running it into the ground. What a disgrace you were to John Skipper, the former boss of ESPN or the host of others. You want me to talk about that? Because I got receipts. I got the email. When we talk about that now, just for everybody that wants to understand, how could this possibly be? Because once upon a time I actually tried to speak up for this damn cretan. I knew he was a piece of shit, but I said, look, maybe he's misunderstood. Why would I do that, ladies and gentlemen? Because sometimes as black folks, we get, in our own way, we think that all of us must be of one monolithic thinking that we need to be completely and totally aligned, and any deviation from that brings into question our quote unquote blackness.

29:46
Speaker 1
Martin Luther King was a man of peace. Malcolm X was by any means necessary. They can't possibly be on the same page, even though their agendas was for the upliftment and the preservation of our race of people. So I understand when we talk about stuff like this how people can sit up there and say, how did it get to this? How did it get to this? Remember when I got suspended years ago? You know what? Sat out there writing stuff, smiling in my face 1 minute, talking smack about me behind my back, and then ultimately writing it was him. Remember when I supposedly used, people were speculating that he used the n word on the air and all of this other stuff.

30:34
Speaker 1
He was the first one out there trying to say that I did it, ladies and gentlemen, I didn't do it on the air in my humble opinion. I'm telling you that. However, it's not like I didn't use the n word when I was off the air, when I was talking to my fellows, or I was talking to other folks who happened to be black. I am not a proponent of using that word often, nor am I advocating that word be used now. I'm just acknowledging the guilt that comes associated with me in terms of when I was younger. But I was always saying we as black people communicate how we want to communicate with each other. I love John Wooten, who's been associated with the Fritz alliance, I'm sorry, Fritz Pollard alliance. Love that man. Love his contributions to the NFL.

31:25
Speaker 1
But when we would get into it in the past, on rare occasions, it wasn't that he wanted the eradication of the n word, because I support that. My issue with him was, hey, you shouldn't be encouraging the NFL to find us and penalize us for using it amongst ourselves. How can a race of people who actually made the word iniquitous be in a position to punish us for using the word with one another? I had a problem with that, and I stand by that. But I digress. My point is, in bringing up all of that, Jason Whitlock pounced on it because that's what he does. You see, what he does is he's the one that puts himself in front of white folks.

32:20
Speaker 1
The white folks, not all white folks, not most white folks, but the white folks that, dare we say, may have a problem with black folks. He says, I'm your man. That's what he does. You think I'm lying? Ask ESPN. Ask Fox. Ask the Kansas City Star. Ask them all. Jamel Hill, Rob Parker, Chris Broussade, Skip Bayless, yours truly, along with a host of black folks all over this country, every single one of them will confirm what the hell I'm saying about this piece of garbage. Ladies and gentlemen, as a black man, I often told y'all, I cannot imagine, as a black man, knowing our history, anything worse than a white supremacist. That is, until Jason Whitlock came along. He's worse than them. He is the worst, most despicable, lying, no good, fat ass human being I have ever known in my life.

34:11
Speaker 1
And I'm going to take a break because I got more in a minute. You're listening to the Stephen A. Smith show right here on YouTube. Don't go away. What's that? What are you putting the desk box on my desk? Just open it. You couldn't open it for me? What's. Yeah, my new book on paperback. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it a lot. It works for me. It works for me. Y'all see this? New forward and all? Stephen A. In paperback, straight shooter memoir, second chances and first takes. I haven't gotten over that picture. It does look pretty smooth. I must say so myself. It's a bestseller. I'll hold on to this. Hope you go out and get it. Thank you all so much for the love and support. Wouldn't be here without you. Thank you. Thank you.

35:43
Speaker 1
Thank you. Welcome back to the Stephen A. Smith show right here over the digital airwaves of YouTube. I will remind everybody that as I'm sitting here talking about Mr. Jason Whitlock, first of all, it will never happen again. He's irrelevant. He's not important. He's insignificant, and he knows it. And he did all of this to try and bait me into this, all of this stuff. I know that's how people are looking at it, my family and friends, and everybody thinks the same thing. My point is, I don't care. And the reason I don't care is because I've been holding it in for nearly ten years. And so there comes a point in time where at the very least, at least one time, you have to address it. It's necessary. It's important. Okay?

36:32
Speaker 1
And as we sit here today talking about this subject, there's certain things that we just don't need to let go. We just don't need to let go because there comes a point in time when enough's enough. And that time has arrived. Getting back into him and to really elaborate extensively on us, ladies and gentlemen, John Skipper, the former boss for ESPN, wanted to start this website, and if you remember, when the undefeated first came into existence, it was labeled the premier platform for intelligent analysis and celebration of black culture and the african american struggle for equality. That's what it was labeled as.

37:26
Speaker 1
Now that I read you that quote, let me give you a quote that this guy Greg Howard has a recording of Jason Whitlock saying to his staff at that time, if you're more comfortable working for white people rather than working for me. And that sounds humorous, but it's the truth. Fine. This is according to audio obtained by Deadspin back in 2015. Some black people are far more comfortable answering to a white person than a black person, no matter how black. They like to pass themselves off to be far more comfortable because they know a white person is going to overlook their shortcomings. It's good for a negro. I'm not about that. But if you're more comfortable working for a white person, I will find a white person for you to work for. We have a higher standard here.

38:19
Speaker 1
Everybody has to get on board with that or I'm going to find a way to move them someplace else. That was Jason Whitlock, and then he went out and hired a senior writer and editor, Mike Wise, who's white. This is the man that's in charge of black culture. Why can I say that? And by the way, I'm not casting any Asperger's against Mike Weiss. I'm cool with him. I've always been cool with him. He used to work for the New York Times, used to cover the Knicks long before he went moved on to the Washington Post. He's a credible journalist. I have nothing negative to say about him. I'm just saying black website. But you bring in your white friend in part because black folks didn't want to work for you. But I digress, ladies and gentlemen. How serious I am. Am I.

39:10
Speaker 1
I have a contract that I negotiated with ESPN and I signed in 2015. I don't know of anyone who has this in their contracts. I had it in my contract and I have a copy of it where it specifically stipulates that I never work with Jason Whitlock. It's in writing. No wonder you didn't see him on first take. You didn't see him on undisputed with Skip Bayless either. Skip Bayless wouldn't allow him on there. You didn't see him on numbers. Never lie either. Jamel Hill and Michael Smith wouldn't allow him on there. Christopher Broussard for Fox Sports and Fox Sports Radio. Let me take a moment to tell you about Chris Broussad. If Chris Broussad were not in this industry, do you know where he'd probably be? Probably because I don't know for sure, but probably be y'all in a monastery.

40:26
Speaker 1
He's one of the most religious, God fearing, decent human beings you will ever encounter. It doesn't get any better than Christopher Broussard. And he can't stand Jason Whitlock. Look around. Don't y'all notice why black people scurry away whenever this roach of an individual is around named Whitlock? Because we know what he is. We know what he is. Blaze TV, you may not know Glenn Beck, Dave Rubin, the great one himself, Mark Levin. I bring up Blaze TV, which is where Whitlock works, because I want Blaze TV to understand I'm not talking about you. I know you're a conservative. Know I get all of that. I'm not judging accordingly. I know Mark Levin. Well, we have one another on speed dial. We talk all the time. The same applies to Sean Hannity, the Andrew Wilcows of the world. Okay? I talk to these folks.

41:45
Speaker 1
I'm not one of those people that's married to one side or the other. And decent people are everywhere. Be careful that you don't get yourself stained and stenched by Whitlock. He can do that to people. He is the worst. He's not ethical. He's not moral. Clearly based over what I've told you about me. He's also not factual most of the time. He will lie. He will denigrate and he will turn against anyone to serve his own good. The real reason and casting no aspersions on what Blaze TV presents and what it has to offer. The real reason he's there is because he can't get a job anywhere else. He hasn't burnt Bridges. He's napalmed them. Call Eric Shanks and Charlie Dixon at Fox. Call Jimmy Pitaro, Burke Magnus, Dave Roberts, Norby Williamson at ESPN. Call him. Call him.

42:54
Speaker 1
Call John Skipper at Metal Lock Media. I'm giving you names. I'm giving you names. That's just. I already gave you on air talent names. I gave you reporters and on air talent. Ladies and gentlemen, this same Jason Whitlock that wants to talk smack about me is the same Jason Whitlock that wanted to hire me. It's the same Jason Whitlock that stood outside doors trying to get me and coax me into even having a conversation with them because they knew I was so disgusted with him, presumably after he hit a strip club, because we all know ain't nobody trying to go out with him. Okay? The same Jason Whitlock, that guy is the same guy that sent both Dan Lebertard and Isaiah Thomas.

44:02
Speaker 1
Isaiah Thomas, the two time champion, the hall of Famer, one of the greatest point guards in NBA history, now working on NBA TV. That guy, that same Jason Whitlock sent those folks to talk to me. Please. Is there something that could be worked out? Can you forgive him? Can you talk to him? My words and my promise to them was that I want nothing to do with him. I will never hurt him from getting opportunities, but I'll be damned if I'm going to help him by being associated with him in any way. Do you know why I said that, ladies and gentlemen, as black people?

44:53
Speaker 1
And I guess I was wrong, I should say, at this particular moment in time, I was wrong to call him a fat bastard or a roach and all of this other stuff, because that's not my name for him. My name for Jason Whitlock is religiously Cain. Cain. You see, a lot of black folks, we talk about how we're the original man on the face of this earth. Well, that means Cain was the original murderer because he's the one, according to the Bible, who killed Abel. That's Jason Whitlock. There is nothing good about him. Absolutely nothing. And I challenge anybody that knows anything about him to refute what I'm saying. I have the facts. They're all here. I know what he's done.

46:04
Speaker 1
The biggest mistake, one of the biggest mistakes that John Skipper could have ever made as the former boss of ESPN was hiring that man. Everyone knows it. That's why he attacks ESPN. That's why he attacks colleagues and contemporaries in the industry. It's not just because he thinks he's smarter. It's not just because he's fearful of anybody smarter than him in the same room. It's not just because of those reasons. It's because he truly despises us all. It's who he is. And the funny part about it is when he sits up there and he says, I can't do this or I can't do that. Look, I'm 56 years old. If you all think I got a.

47:01
Speaker 1
Now that I'm successful in this business, that I got to sit here and lie about me playing basketball in high school to write in my own damn memoir at this point in time, I like, I can't help y'all. I'm not going to waste my time with that silliness. What I would say to you, however, is this. I have a bestseller. Where's his? I got let go by ESPN and they brought me back. They won't let him within city limits. I'm telling you what, I know how the fox thing work out. When he was on the air arguing with Christopher Busard or arguing with Marcellus Wiley, what happened to him? He wants to talk about me. That's fine, ladies and gentlemen. He'd give anything to have my job. He'd give anything to have my resume. He ain't on ESPN. I got the number one show.

48:10
Speaker 1
Where his show? Do. How his show? Do you ever see. You ever see this despicable dude on television? I'm not even getting into how difficult he is to look at. I'm saying, have you ever listened to him? Who wants him? I don't speak like this, ladies and gentlemen, but what other explanation is there other than his evil, vile tendencies? Than you want to be me? You wish you were in this position, didn't you? Don't you? You wish you had the number one show for twelve years, don't you? You wish you could do that, don't you? Wish you could be on national television every day, don't you? It ain't bragging. I work for it. Everybody else works for it. The only prince of people out here trying to hurt people is you.

48:56
Speaker 1
You have literally made a career off talking about people in the industry who do what you do. In other words, you don't want to do it better, then why don't you have a job outside of Blaze TV? Why are you at Blaze TV? Not to knock Blaze TV, but we know that's not where you want it to be. You want to be at the ESPN, you want to be running the black website, you want to go to Fox, you want to be on television, you want to do all of these things. Jason Whitlock. What's up? Are you watching the show? I mean, it ain't club Shay where you break the Internet with the cat Williams interview, but I do pick up at least 1500 subscribers per day. I am at over 460,000. I just started nine months ago with my team.

49:52
Speaker 1
You've been at it whether it's May of 2021 or July of 2021, you've been at it since then. I've already surpassed you. Sound familiar? Because it's what I've been doing to your entire career. You were a great writer, your mistake was you started talking, and worse, wanting to be seen while you were talking, which is why your quality and your value plummeted. Because when we see you and we listen to you, we know how worthless you are. This is a dude that, according to reports, literally tried to put a tape recorder under a hotel door to spy on what Alan Iverson was having to say. According to this article in Deadspin, he plagiarized one of his own editors, somebody with these credentials, with this history of iniquities, with this disgusting reputation. Y'all want to listen to him talk about me, fine.

51:04
Speaker 1
But let me leave you with this before I get on out of here. Ladies and gentlemen. You know why he's talking about me? Because I get him clicks. That's what he's been reduced to. See, this is a passion and a hobby for me. I have a day job that's paying me quite well. I own and operated this. This cost me money because I invested my own money with my new studio, with my staff, and with everything that I've done to do this. He's leaning on blaze for a check because he can't find one anywhere else. I ask any of you connected to this industry from this point forward because I know my colleagues. They don't want touch this subject because he's a bully and they don't want to deal with the fallout of him constantly coming at them. I don't give a shit.

52:16
Speaker 1
He came to the one. I know what he is. I have the emails. I have the articles. I have everything. I once tried to befriend this dude. I don't talk to him because he betrayed me as he has others. He's turned his back on Dan Lebertard. He's turned his back on all of those other colleagues that I mentioned. Ask Jamel Hill about him. Ask Dan Lebertard. Ask Chris Broussard. Let me stop naming names. Ask anybody in the industry. I can give you the names of the executives if you want, all of them. At Fox, the executives, upon telling their subordinates that they were bringing Jason Whitlock on board, said, quote, we'll all band together and stand on the tracks in front of a train to stop it if that would prevent you from hiring him here. He is despised. He doesn't report anymore, y'all.

53:46
Speaker 1
All he does is make noise by coming after the very people who did and still does what he once did, what he aspires to do, but no longer has the outlet to do because he is considered a vile, despicable human being. That no one wants anything to deal with. Nothing. That's who he is. I will not be speaking on him anymore. He's a liar. He's a piece of shit. My apologies to ESPN. My apologies to my family, my friends, my staff, my employees. My apologies to Fox for staining their name by even mentioning the fact that he was once there. My apologies to John Skipper. My apologies to Dan Lebertard and Stu Gotts and their show. My apologies to Jamel Hill. I didn't even mention Kerry champion. He was insulting to her along with others. Whether it's Amina Kimes, whether it's Amonik McNuddy.

55:16
Speaker 1
He got something to say about everybody. Molly Kirham, my matriarch for first take every weekday. My apologies to everybody that you had to see me out of character to address this dude. But I asked for everybody indulgence for one show and one show only. And please do not allow this to be a reflection on my character. Because this is not how I act every day. But I mean it from my soul when I say this is the worst human being I've ever known. I don't know of another human being worse than Jason Willlock. He is a piece of shit. He's the dude that's gonna have a funeral and ain't gonna be no Paul bearers. Might be two people to show up. He's that dude. He is the absolute worst.

56:19
Speaker 1
And he lies and he incriminates and he tries to set people up to fail, to big up himself because he can't do it on his own. He had a television show. He failed. He's had opportunities. One time after another, he doesn't measure up. And now he's coming at the big dog. And let me tell you something right now, I am the big dog. I ain't the only one. I ain't the only one. There's plenty skip Bayless. Apologies to him, too, for bringing up Jason Whitlock's name in the same sentence as him. But we all know what time it is. Everyone knows. All the executives at all the networks, they know what a piece of shit he is. And they begged me not to do this. But even my pastor, a R. Bernard, said, I'm not happy about it.

57:11
Speaker 1
But every now and then, we gotta do what we gotta do. I promise you. And last, to my sister Carmen, I won't do this again. I promise you. I know you cringing. You didn't want me to do this. I'm sorry, sis. It was necessary. He's a sorry, fat piece of shit. A no of the worst order. That's who he is. And I want to make sure everybody knows that. And I said to Isaiah Thomas, and I said to Dan Lebertard, if you care anything about our friendship, don't ever call me about him again. I'm a very forgiving person. Not with him. I don't care what beef I had. I don't care how many of you out there that hate me, whatever. Former athletes, all this stuff, man, please. I'm sorry. Because I certainly don't hate y'all.

58:22
Speaker 1
We might have our differences from time to time, but ain't never that. This is the exception. I hate this bastard. Not even far more than a little bit. He is the worst human being any of you will ever meet. You get within a mile of his presence, wrap your arms around yourself to protect your soul. He is Cain. He is a devil. The worst. That's all I have to say. Y'all have a nice day. I'm going to go about my business. I will not speak about this piece of shit again. Peace and love.